Interview with philet0ast3r www.rrlf.de ~ philet0ast3r@rRlf.de =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | This interview was made through mail by DvL for .: BZ #1 :. | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ DvL: Hy! Tell us something about you(hobby, music, how old r u ...). philet0ast3r: Hi! I'm a 20 years old (at the moment, that is 27.5.2003) dreadhead from Germany, Bavaria (that's where the best beer comes from :). Most of my hobbies can be combined to four letters: rRlf. Which is being webmaster and zine-editor for rRlf.de, coding more or less silly batch stuff and producing mind-altering computer graphics. Besides that I read a lot, get political active and listen to a broad spectrum of music, that is mostly new-metal, punk, hardcore and other loud things. All the time that is left I try to spend with other ppl. And I got lot's of time, cause I'm a proud unemployed :] DvL: When did u entered the vx-scene and what was your first virus ? philet0ast3r: Around February 2001 I wrote BlackDay phinal, which I would call my first real virus (nevertheless a quite lame one). I was interested in viruses before and already wrote two bad asm virii, and also rRlf already existed to this date. I submitted BlackDay phinal to Pinoy Virus Writers E-Zine #6, and through this came in touch with some vx-scene ppl. Soon after I became member of SallyOne Group, which had a very short life. We wanted to release a zine, but it didn't get that far. The stuff I wrote for it had too much worth for me, so we decided to put it together to a rRlf zine. At the latest to the release of rRlf#1 we are a part of the vx-scene. DvL: What languages do you use and which one is your favorite ? philet0ast3r: I think I can say, that I can code quite well in batch. I also know vbs, a bit js, and a bit win32asm (and html if that counts). But my absolutly favourite is batch, because it's like art. A definition of art: Creating fine things despite of restrictions. DvL: Do you have a girlfriend/relation-ship ? philet0ast3r: Sure :) I told her, that I'm going to write an interview today, and she said, I should mention her somewhere, so: Hey babe, I love you :) DvL: Your family/friends know about your vx activity ? philet0ast3r: If ppl spend much time with me, they are getting it automatically, because I spend much time with vx related stuff. Some find it interesting, some boring, some terrible, but they can't change it anyway. DvL: Why do you create virii ? Is it for fame, or is it a hobby, a job u like to do ? philet0ast3r: Creating virii is a hobby for me. I like spending my time with it. Not only the coding, but all the things that suround it. Even if it changed me a lot: Hobby is all it means to me. If it bores me someday (I don't hope/think so), I'd stop. DvL: Who are your best vx friends ? How about the enemies ? philet0ast3r: My best vx friends are the ones in my group :) The cool thing is: You get to know lots of cool ppl with this kind of hobby (check the greets at the bottom). But of course you don't only meet cool ppl. There are lots out there, that would like me and/or the rRlf to disappear. A big FUCK YOU to all of these. I don't give a shit on your opinion. DvL: If u will ever get married, will u quit the scene ? philet0ast3r: No. Why should I? I hate children, and am not planning to get some. And I already spend lots of time with my girlfriend (hehe, she has the same opinion on kids). Nevertheless I have enough time for vx things. DvL: What are you future plans in the vx-scene ? A new language to learn maybe ? philet0ast3r: I wanted to learn win32asm, but stopped some time ago...It's not the right language for me. But I got some more never-done-before-with-batch-things in mind :) DvL: Have you ever been hacked or infected ? philet0ast3r: Hacked, no, not really. Infected, sure: I'm regularly infecting myself with my own creations to test them :) ... I also let the favourite of my viruses (which is not released) run around free on my PC. I'm improving it from time to time. It's funny seeing it develop and making notice of itself when I've nearly forgotten it again. Before my vx days I just once got infected by Parity.Boot.B (I think). DvL: Do you consider BATch as lame ? Why ? philet0ast3r: I can't, cause I love it :) It seems mostly asm coders think batch is lame, I would say this is just one thing: Arrogant. Yes, win32asm can be more difficult, but a language itself can not be lame. Of course there are lame batch viruses. As there are lame viruses in any other languages. Btw: I know lots of lame asm virii ... Argh, I'm getting sick of this topic... DvL: Who can be called a lamer ? philet0ast3r: Those who call their program, that just contains copy-and-pasted code, their own creation. And those that consider themselves more worth than you, because their hobby is in a language more complicated ... It's a decision: If I really wanted to write viruses in an other language, I would learn it. I would also say, someone is a lamer if he wrote more or less good code some years ago, and now is doing nothing besides being elite, hanging around on irc, and going "newer" vxers on their nerves. The best example for my last two lamer-definitions is (he seems to be the most disgusting lameass on this planet): daniel aka CyberWarrior aka The Bughunter DvL: Do you think virii making is dying ? philet0ast3r: I think yes, but this is a very slow process. As techniques get more difficult every time, things are also getting more difficult for newbies to learn. If you want to make something really new, you need a high knowledge. But also new operating systems and file formats are developed all the time, with lots of new stuff to exploit (of course these also get more complicated every time). Another thing that could be a danger for the virus writing scene is global politics. With more and more rights of the normal human being cut off, because of savety, anti-terror, or whatever you call it. It's just one thing: Control. It's not hard to imagine that writing viruses could be made illegal. DvL: Do you think that too many scripts and too many lamers suround the vx scene ? philet0ast3r: No, I don't think so. I think it's normal. Every scene is surounded by lamers and wannabes. It's also logic there are more script viruses than viruses in "real" languages ... script-languages are easier. But: Script or not, computer virus is computer virus. DvL: Are virii a method of revenge ? philet0ast3r: Sure they are. But I think most of the viruses produced by the vx scene are not written for this reason, but to show off programming techniques. It's clear that also ppl that can't code are using viruses. For revenge for example. That's why you can see disclaimers everywhere :) DvL: Do you like dangerous virii payloads ? philet0ast3r: Sometimes :) Many ppl say, that destructive payloads are bad for the virus, cause it's goal is spreading. So there is no sense in destroying it's spreading platform. And it's also morally wrong. Well, I got one counter-argument for both: I don't spread my viruses. So if it's not made for spreading, just for showing it to others, there is no sense in careing for the spreading platform, right? And as I don't spread viruses, I'm not responsible for damages caused by others. The only thing that's true and bad with destructive payloads is: The only viruses that are known to "normal" ppl are viruses that destroyed a lot. Cause bad news sell better than good news. Normal ppl think viruses have to be bad and virus authors are criminals, but you can't do anything against it. DvL: What is your favorite zine or mag ? philet0ast3r: rRlf zine of course :) I got no real favourite ... I read all vx related zines I get in my hands. DvL: If u would be caught, after that, will u create any new virii ? philet0ast3r: I think yes, but I would make damn sure they stay on my pc. DvL: What's your favorite AV and why ? Which do you think is lame, why ? philet0ast3r: My favourite av is AntiVir Personal Edition. It's a little german av, but good an free (www.free-av.de). I just got this one, and don't know many others. Usually I send my creations to Trend, because I think they write good av-reports. And I love to quote Ratter: "My favourite AV is my brain. I don't use any other :)" DvL: How do you see the life without virii, a perfect world maybe ? philet0ast3r: Not perfect but boring :) I don't want to imagine a world without virii, cause I love them. DvL: Greetz and 10x, last words[ i'm not killing you :) ] ... philet0ast3r: Some greets and thanks in (maybe not ;) random order: 3ri5, tanja, ina, janine, phily, rastafarie, jackie, gl_st0rm, Toro, breathe, alcopaul, NeKr0, Slage Hammer, Necronomikon, BeLiAL, malfunction, Industry, mindjuice, LiSt and all rRlf members. Also thank you for interviewing me (and not killing me :). My works can be seen on www.rRlf.de, next to other weird things :] Be sure to get an answer: philet0ast3r@rRlf.de ... Friend of mine just came in, and we thought about cool last words. The decision fell on: "What have you done with my goddamn shoes?!" (the first one, who can tell me, where this comes from, wins a @rRlf.de e-mail-address :) Interview with philet0ast3r www.rrlf.de ~ philet0ast3r@rRlf.de =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | This interview was made through mail by DvL for .: BZ #1 :. | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ 30.05.2003, Romania